SinJul’s Arcade Stick Reviews

Datel Arcade Pro

Posted by sinjul on June 1, 2012

It’s been a while everyone. Today I’m reviewing a stick I have been using for quite some time:  the “Datel Arcade Pro” (DAP).

The DAP features a PCB combining the ability to play on Xbox 360 AND PS3 out of the box. Not bad for an arcade stick that only costs 30Euro, eh? One switches between PS3 and Xbox360 mode by holding the “Turbo” Button while plugging the stick into the console or PC.

The measures of the DAP are 25,5 x 31 x 11,5 cm. It is also pretty light-weight and has a 3m USB cable. The length of the USB cable is long enough to be sitting at a comfortable distance, but also not too long for having a problem with the cable getting in the way while moving around.

The faceplate features 8 28mm buttons, 4 small buttons and 1 lever. 28mm buttons means that Korean buttons will fit in just fine, but the holes need to be widened for Japanese buttons as they are 30mm in diameter.

The buttons don’t use microswitches but press on a PCB directly. This PCB is connected to a smaller PCB that picks up the signals. Actually you do not need the big PCB that the buttons press down on if you are modding the stick with Microswitch buttons. Just solder the cables of the buttons directly to the smaller PCB. Also the PCB is common ground, so you can daisy chain the ground of the buttons and only have to solder one ground cablte to the PCB.

The buttons are alright to play on. Not the most comfortable buttons, but playable. I didn’t have any problems doing 2button presses using the DAP. Only problem is pressing 4 buttons at the same time , which is needed for games like “Karnov’s Revenge”, but I only do a bit better on Sanwa buttons. I would blame my button layout I use for the game in this case.

The lever reminds me a bit of the Sanwa JLF. I have no problem doing precise inputs and the distance one has to press the lever into a direction for it to activate is similiar to the Sanwa JLF in my opinion. A really great lever for this price range. If you are used to play on a Sanwa JLF or the DAP you should have no problem switching between those two.

All in all I think the “Datel Arcade Pro” is a really great stick for its price. The buttons are a bit uncomfortable, yes, but one can still play for hours using the stick, just don’t use too much force pressing the buttons.

If you would like to read a tutorial how to mod the DAP, please take a look at laughs tutorial on modding the “Paewang Revolution” (Same stick as the DAP, just a different name) on Shoryuken.com: DAP modding tutorial

I give this stick a 7/10 for the great PCB, good lever and acceptable buttons. Main reason for only giving it a 7/10 is the work you have to put into the stick if you want to replace the buttons and lever with Sanwa parts.

As a bonus, have a LINK to a faceplate for the DAP made by Arcade Forge.

P.S.: I’m gonna upload some more pictures of the stick later on.

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First pictures of the Street Fighter 4 Stick by MadCatz!

Posted by sinjul on September 12, 2008

Today the first pictures of the official Street Fighter 4 Arcade Stick developed by MadCatz showed up. Well the first pictures of the premium version of the stick as there will also be a basic version. The premium version has Sanwa Buttons and Stick, so it has the same parts like the japanese Arcade Cabinets. Also the Artwork can be exchanged easily.

The price for the Premium version is 140$ and for the basic version 70$ but MarkMan, one of the developers, says that the prices are not set and they still try to reduce the prize.

In my opinion the Premium Stick looks a lot like a Custom Stick and seems very interesting as it’s cheaper than importing a Hori Real Arcade Pro and comes with both Sanwa Buttons and Stick.

Source: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=162653&page=10

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Custom Arcade Stick Part 2: The Case

Posted by sinjul on September 12, 2008

Alright! Haven’t updated this for quite some time and I’m sorry. I progressed a lot so I can update the blog again!

First thing you will have to do for the case is to decide on the size. As I build a 2Player stick I need a very long case so both players can play at the same time without getting in each others way. That’s why I decided on 80cm length, 20cm width and 10cm height.

I got 4 plates of wood with the measures of 80x20x2cm (length,width,thickness) and one big plexi glass plate with the thickness of 2mm. The size of the wood is perfect as it already is 80x20cm and I don’t have to cut it for the bottom and top panel.

I cut one plate in half so that the height halfs and that I get 2plates with the measures of 80x10x2cm because those are the front and back of the case. The 3rd plate is cut in the measures of 20x10x2 twice to get the left and right side of the case. I used the rest of the 3rd plate for 6 small block that I put the top panel on.

Then I cut the plexi to 80x20cm and drew the layout on the foil that is on the plate. Remove it after you finished with all the holes or else the risk of it splitting is higher! As I could not find a 30mm hole adapter for the drill, I drilled a hole in the middle of every spot that a button will be placed and then used a hand jigsaw (hope that’s the right word. fuck you google!) to cut out the holes. I used one that you could cut in all directions with so it was easier. Also I cut the holes in the wood under the plexi. I used 32mm and 26mm holes to have enough space. You can see the result in the last pictures of this article!

The pictures show the case after grounding to the 3rd coat of paint. I used spray ground and paint (I’ll upload an image of the sprays I used when I got batteries for my camera) and it turned out pretty good. Just make sure to have the paint even on the case in the end. Also ignore my feet 😀 .

And that’s how the case looks like! The only thing that is missing are the holes for the cable of the PCB but that’s not a big deal. I think you should know how to drill a small hole into wood. ^^

Greetings SinJul.

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Custom Arcade Stick Part 1: The parts

Posted by sinjul on June 23, 2008

Today me Buttons, Sticks and the Stick harness arrived. As you can see the buttons are Sanwa OSBF-30 in black and white and OSBF-24 in white and yellow (not producing black OSBF-24 :/). Both sticks are Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT with a white and a black balltop. So you probably already know what theme I chose, a black and white theme.Also got some How-To-Play cards for free 😀

Controller PCB and Wood pictures will get uploaded when I got the wood and opened the controllers. Stay tuned!

UPDATE:

The controllers are normal PS1 controllers produced by Sony. One is Version M and the other is Version H. I can’t upload Pics of the PCB because my camera sucks and pictures from a short distance are blurred a lot. If you want a detailed picture of the PCB of both versions please visit SlagCoin’s joystick site, the link is on the right collum. You can also see my feet, hello there buddies! 😀

The Wood is 80cm long, 20cm wide and 18mm thick. I got 4 of those. One will be the bottom and another will be holding the stick units, so it will be 8cm above the bottom. I’ll go further into details in my 2nd part: The case!

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Summer Break Project: 2Player Arcade Stick

Posted by sinjul on June 13, 2008

I just want to announce that I will be building my own 2 Player Arcade Stick in my summer break. It’s my first self built stick ever and I will update the blog with pictures when I worked on the stick.

You might ask why I want to build a 2player arcade stick. Well, I’m interested in a 2player stick as I got 3 single sticks but I want to play with some friends from time to time and so I want to play with them on my own 2Player Arcade Stick.

If somebody knows a lot about building your own Arcade Stick please add me in any messanger (see about me) as I might have some questions.

I hope you readers will cooperate with me and help me get this done as good as possible. ^^
Thanks guys, SinJul.

Update: My Buttons, Sticks and PS1 controllers will arrive next week. I don’t know if I will start the case this weekend but I will start working on the stick soon. So expect some updates ^^

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Mod-It Arcade Stick

Posted by sinjul on June 9, 2008

Today I’m going to review the Mod-It Arcade Stick. First off, I bought this Stick for 15Euros at Pearl (German/Austrian shop that sells everything by companies nobody knows) and the Stick actually is a Saulabi Fake. This is not only shown by the overall design of the stick but also by the ” The Powerful Stick for Fighting Game” Engrish. Well that does not necessarily have to be something that shows that the stick is bad, even though Korean Sticks are not very well known outside of Korea. Here are pictures to compare the original and the fake. The Mod-It stick works on PS1 and PS2.

Saulabi original

The Mod-It Arcade Stick features 10 30mm Buttons and a bat-top stick. I could not find any company name on the bottons or the stick, so they are really “noname” and not only by a company that nobody knows about. It also has 2 “analog balls” that are like the 2 analog sticks of the PS1/2 Dual Shock controllers. I will explain their function later.

Button Layout

The button layout is pretty weird as it’s like an American button layout but going diagonal and not horizontally like the American button layout. The buttons in order from left to right: Top Row: L1, Square, Triangle, R1. Bottom Row: L2, X, O, R2. This means that you will be using the 6 bottons from the right but there is no real difference as the layout does not really change like if you would use the L1/L2 buttons instead of the R1/R2 buttons when using a Hori Real Arcade Pro. You can easily see how they tried to save money by using the same buttons for the start and select button. Most of the time the start and select button are smaller than the buttons you use for playing. In my opinion the button layout is okay when you get used to it but you will not be able to use the Arcade Stick of somebody else as the layout does not resemble an Arcade layout in any way! Also the buttons work fine but not as reliable as Sanwa buttons do. Sometimes I pressed 2 buttons at the same time but the Arcade Stick registered one press before the other.

The stick is a real challenge for somebody who is used to Sanwa or Seimitsu sticks as the Stick needs to be moved a lot further than japanese sticks. I measured around 2cm until you hit the case. This is 1cm more than the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2 needs. When I played with the Stick sometimes I tried to block while crouching and the Stick only registered the crouching command. This is definately a bad aspect of the stick and comes from the long shaft. The bat-top is not too bad and I guess there is not a big difference between different bat-tops and one can get used to it. I always played with a ball-top before but as I also grab the ball-top like a bat-top it was not a big conversion.

Turbo/Clear buttons

Those 2 “analog balls” also are used to activate the turbo function. This works by pressing down the turbo ball and then pressing the button you want to activate the turbo for. You deactivate the turbo by pressing the clear button and then the button that had the turbo function turned on. It’s a weird way to activate the turbo function but at least the Arcade Stick has the function.

The Arcade Stick is also supposed to have a vibration function but I think that nobody really wants to use this funtion.

Back of the StickWires

Let’s take a look inside the Arcade Stick. Before you are able to take a look inside the stick one has to remove the 4 rubber feet of the stick that hide the screws. The PCB consists of 3 parts that seem to be seperated into one main and two smaller parts. The Buttons are connected to the main part and the stick cables are connected to a smaller part. As you can see some cables are glued to the case. The inside looks really cheap and a lot more unclean that the inside of the HRAP2:SA. On the bottom part of the case a big plate out of some weird material I cannot really identify is glued to the case to make the Stick heavier. The stick weights less than 2kg and I guess if you remove the plate it will only weight around 600-700g.

All in all the stick is okay and worth the 15Euros but it is not really the best stick on the market. You cannot expect a lot of a noname Arcade Stick but you can play with it. The Stick and Buttons are not the best but acceptable. I don’t recommend this stick to people that wnat to play Fighting Games in competitivly as one does not always get the actions one wants.

My rating for the Mod-It Arcade Stick:

  • Buttons: 6/10
  • Stick: 5/10
  • Case: 4/10 (Stick is hard to remove for modding)
  • Price-Performance: 8/10 (a Playstation>USB converter is included)

Sometimes you are able to find the stick on ebay but Pearl stopped selling the sticks probably because they ran out of stock. You can start getting into Fighting Games with this Stick but you should get another Stick soon.

P.S: I’m sorry that only the first image is clickable to get a bigger image but I had problems putting the images I uploaded into the review.

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Hori Real Arcade Pro 2: Special Addition Review

Posted by sinjul on June 8, 2008

Today I’m going to review the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2: Special Addition. This Arcade Stick was shipped on April 17th and a restock was shipped in mid May. As many people were waiting for this stick to be on sell, it was sold out in only a few hours!

The HRAP2:SA is a full Sanwa version of the HRAP2. This means it has a Sanwa stick and Sanwa buttons instead of Hori Buttons. The stick is a JLF-TP-8YT-SK, this means it has a mounting plate (YT) and shaft cover (SK). The buttons are OBSF-30 and OBSF-24. The OSBF-30 are the normal and shoulder buttons and the OSBF-24 are the start and select buttons. The Balltop and the OSBF-30 are, as you can see, light blue. The HRAP2:SA measures 412x243x135mm (width, length, height), so it’s pretty big and weights around 3kg.

The Button layout is based on the japanese arcade cabinet layout and one will use the 6 buttons from the left. The top row consists of square, triange, R1 and L1, the bottom row X, O, R2, L2. I suggest using the default layout as it is the same as japanese arcade cabinets use and one does not have to change the button configuration every time.

Let’s take a look inside the HRAP2:SA. All buttons are connected with quick disconnects, so it’s easy to switch buttons if you do not like the color or want to change them for Seimitsu buttons. The stick is connected by a harness and has a square restrictor. One can also see the mounting plate. All cables were taped to the case of the stick with duct tape but one has to remove it or else the cables are too short to lay down the plate. All in all the cables are connected very well and as long as one does not remove the duct tape the cables are well seperated. The rest of the case is pretty much empty, maybe Hori wanted people to hide their chocolate bars in there or something.

The plate on the bottom of the stick hides the PCB. I did not upload an image of this because I do not find it too important. You will not need to exchange the PCB anyway, so just keep your fingers off the plate.

The HRAP2:SA works very well. One can expect this as it features buttons and stick that are used in japanese arcades. The stick reacts very fast and only needs to be moved a bit less than 1cm to hit a microswitch. The buttons also react very fast and do not even need to be pushed in completely to react. One probably will have to get used to the short path of the stick and how it has to be moved to hit the correct microswitches. I also had to get used to it, as I often hit up-left/right instead of only left or right. But after playing for some hours everybody should be able to pull of the moves he or she wants to do. One probably won’t have to get used to the buttons as one just has to push them and there is not such a big difference between different buttons compared to different sticks.

All in all I can say that the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2: Special Addition is probably the best stick on the market at the moment as it does not need any modifications and already comes with arcade authentic parts. The only thing that I can criticize is that the case is huge and takes away a lot of space, so it’s not the best stick for traveling. I bought the stick for around 140Euro (shipping included) and it’s worth it. It could have been cheaper but as you have to import it from Japan the shipping costs nearly as much as the stick does (3000-4000Yen less than the stick).

My ratings for the HRAP2:SA :

  • Buttons: 10/10
  • Stick: 10/10
  • Case: 8/10
  • Price-performance: 8/10

You can still get the HRAP2:SA at Play-Asia or Akihabara Shop (see links at the right column)

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July, the month of Sticks!

Posted by sinjul on June 8, 2008

5 different Arcade Sticks are announced to be on sell in July.

The first 2 Sticks are Amazon Versions of the Hori Real Arcade Pro 1 and 3. They will be like the normal version just in a different color. The HRAP1 will have orange buttons and stick and a black case. The HRAP3 will have white buttons and stick and a white case.

Both sticks will probably only be avaible in Japan, so you will have to import them. Akihabara Shop opened preorders a while ago.

HRAP1HRAP3

As those 2 HRAP versions are made for Playstation 1/2 and 3, Hori also announced a Real Arcade Pro version for the XBox360! This one is called the Hori Real Arcade Pro EX. Some online shops already allow pre-ordering the stick, for example Akihabara shop already opened pre-order.

HRAP EX

http://www.hori.jp/products/xbox360/controller/realarc_pro_ex/

The final 2 sticks are actually not new but Soul Calibur 4 versions of the Fighting Stick 3 and EX2 for the PS3 and Xbox360. They are the same sticks as the normal versions, just with a different artwork.

Both sticks are avaible on Amazon.com and you do not need to import them from Japan. The PS3 stick costs 50$ and the XBox 360 stick costs 60$.

PS3 Fighting StickXBox fighting stick

So if you need a stick for the Play Station 3 or the XBox360 now is the time to secure one of those 5 sticks! The Real Arcade Pro sticks should get rare very quickly!

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My own Arcade Stick Review Blog!

Posted by sinjul on June 7, 2008

Hey guys and gals!

I’ll post reviews of different Arcade Sticks here and show you the pros and cons of the sticks. I’m an active Beat Em Up / Fighting Game player and have been to several tournaments. So I know what I’m talking about.

I will upload the first review in a few days and it will be about the Hori Real Arcade Pro 2: Special Addition!

Hope you will look for new reviews and Arcade Stick news on my blog!

See ya, SinJul.

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